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The Presidential Primaries 2008
JB
1737 post s
27-Jan-2008
5:55 PM
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Same old, same old? Or do you think things could roll differently this time? Which candidates intrique, inspire, confuse, and/or madden you?
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miguel
156 post s
29-Jan-2008
9:01 PM
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Honestly I haven't followed the craze all that much. It's kinda hard to be inspired by the whole thing when things like Bush-times-two happen. And then candidates such as Romney are just scary, as well as a God-Bless-The-Usa type clone John McCain. Playing the 'true-American-hero' cards all over again. The fact that a woman and a non white are running for the democrats to me is like a double edged sword. On the one hand, it's a great change, on the other, do we seriously think that those that were in doubt between Kerry and Bush and finally leaned towards Bush are going to lean towards a 'minority'? And I did watch that democrats debate. It's funny how they all had a 'wrong' comment that was disputed very fast by the one commented on. A friendly battle, so to speak... There were some very eloquent and inspiring things that were said by Obama (and he gracefully tried to keep things in focus).
At the end of the day it's still hard for me to think that America in general is suddenly going to awaken from it's Bush era slumber and go for the more leftist choice. It would be a very radical change that seems very difficult. Not for more liberal minded people, they already know they're not voting for them conservatives, but it's the same syndrome of an era where not even thousands of marchers worldwide can't stop the worse from happening. An era of American politics when I think fear is a very sharp weapon being used by the powerful, and a very effective one. I wait for the day when McCain says something like "Do you think a woman can handle terrorists?" (not that he's going to say that exactly, but you get my drift).
In any case, let's hope for best and may change come!
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JB
1738 post s
7-Feb-2008
9:09 PM
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Hi Miguel! I can relate to all of your thoughts. But it does mean something that we finally see some diversity on the Democratic side. The question is how DEEP that diversity goes -- when it comes to ideas and actions! Since I don't believe in oligarchies and Hilary Clinton voted for the war, I had to vote Obama in the primaries. (I even TEMPORARILY switched from Green to do so.) Since Obama voted against the invasion I have more confidence in him than her. Sadly, I've always believed it was a political move on her part, playing possom to hold power. Surely she, like many of us, knew what the Bush admin was up to from day one. Unfortunately she and most of her colleagues knowingly co-signed the death warrant of many lives, Iraqi and American alike. So, when it comes to choosing leaders, Americans are really slow on the uptake. It's the media. It the FOX effect. And it doesn't help that most people don't read. However, after nearly eight years of surely one the most cringe-worthy and despicable administrations in history, maybe people are starting to wake up.
Last Edited on 22-Feb-2008 9:36 PM
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GreyBLoon
37 post s
10-Mar-2008
9:00 AM
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Judging from the last primaries, it now appears that I, a Pennsylvanian with a 10 vote following, will determine who the next president will be. My power is a huge aphrodesiac.
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