Define "clean" for me, please. Lies, and exploitive lies that rail in the face of the safety of our children are clean?

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Barry Yourgrau
Huffington Post

I would suggest putting John McCain's soul up on eBay. But it's no longer worth two cents.

The despicable Obama Sex Education ad by the McCain campaign shows that McCain is willing to scrape down to the bottom of the filthiest latrine. His fingernails stink so much, he must need air fresheners strapped on round the clock.

What McCain has done is embrace Karl Rove's brand of politics. Steve Schmidt, his senior adviser, is an old Rove colleague -- I mean henchman.

This sex-education smear is straight from Karl Rove's playbook. From his resume. Rove seems to have a thing for pedophilia. In 1994 in an Alabama Supreme Court judge race, he used a pedophilia smear against his opponent, Democratic Judge Mark Kennedy, running for reelection and known for his work with needy children.

From Joshua Green in The Atlantic:

Some of Kennedy's campaign commercials touted his volunteer work, including one that showed him holding hands with children. "We were trying to counter the positives from that ad," a former Rove staffer told me, explaining that some within the See [Rove's client] camp initiated a whisper campaign that Kennedy was a pedophile. "It was our standard practice to use the University of Alabama Law School to disseminate whisper-campaign information," the staffer went on. "That was a major device we used for the transmission of this stuff. The students at the law school are from all over the state, and that's one of the ways that Karl got the information out--he knew the law students would take it back to their home towns and it would get out." This would create the impression that the lie was in fact common knowledge across the state. "What Rove does," says Joe Perkins, "is try to make something so bad for a family that the candidate will not subject the family to the hardship. Mark is not your typical Alabama macho, beer-drinkin', tobacco-chewin', pickup-drivin' kind of guy. He is a small, well-groomed, well-educated family man, and what they tried to do was make him look like a homosexual pedophile. That was really, really hard to take.
What's next, John McCain, beside the Rovian big lies and smears and sneers: Goons in funny shirts smashing up Democratics gatherings?

This isn't "bare knuckles" politics -- this is much darker and disgraceful.

John McCain has lost his claim to honor. He is a dishonorable man, unfit to be president. He is Bush's moral clone.

Abraham Lincoln, American and Republican, pukes in his grave.

John McCain
Karl Rove
I would suggest putting John McCain's soul up on eBay. But it's no longer worth two cents. The despicable Obama Sex Education ad by the McCain campaign shows that McCain is willing to scrape down to ...
I would suggest putting John McCain's soul up on eBay. But it's no longer worth two cents. The despicable Obama Sex Education ad by the McCain campaign shows that McCain is willing to scrape down to ...

Excerpt by Lynn Sweet on September 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)

The Facts:

1. The bill was not Obama's. The sponsors were Democrats Carol Ronen, M. Maggie Crotty, Susan Garrett , Iris Y. Martinez and Jeffrey M. Schoenberg

2. The measure never passed.

3. The legislation in several places said all sex ed had to be "age and developmentally appropriate." Obama backed teaching youngsters about inappropriate touching by strangers.

4. The bill would let parents opt out of a sex education course.

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But you shouldn't say that he is pervert, or that he is bad for children, because this is terrible thing.

I just think you should not say he is pedophile, because you could say that soldiers are pedophile because they go to jungles and their girlfriends are far away, and they pay for sex, like in vietnam. And although Mc Cain was in vietnam, there is no proof he was soldier like that, perhaps a big minority of soldier did not do that, and perhaps he is not a pedophile, it is true that many places where soldiers were are now full of child prostitutes, like cambodia, vietnam, guatemala, but this is not perhaps because of McCain.

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McCain was a pilot. He wasn't roaming around the jungle.

Your username is a famous monastary in Poland. How did you get to become so anti-catholic?

I just think that children should be protected from these person.

But you said he was catholic and now he wasn't catholic. When did he become one? Too many people pretend to be faith when it suits them, and I am disappointed that McCain is like Bush, why do they pretend this just to win the election?
At least he might now understand why it is wrong to be like that now that he is no longer a catholic.

Just today my friend in sydney australia he sent me two peice news of where he is, there is many of them in this city, I was disgusted, why do they allow them to religion like this?:

1: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080904/wl_nm/australia_catholic_abuse_dc;_ylt=Ao1T1G81G9ImInMKQLYFBwYfYhAF

Thursday, September 4 05:31 amSYDNEY (Reuters) - A former priest has been charged with 93 child sex offences stemming from an alleged paedophile ring at a Catholic boy's school, police said on Wednesday.

The 65-year-old was arrested and charged with the offences police allege took place from late 1970s to the early 1980s, according to a statement issued by the New South Wales police.

Police suspect dozens of boys may have been abused during alleged hypnotic "prayer" sessions at St Stanislaus College, located 75 kilometres (45 miles) west of Sydney, according to local media reports.

The former priest, who was not named in the statement, was charged in May with 33 offences stemming from evidence of alleged victims, and a further 60 offences on Wednesday relating to at least 13 alleged victims, police said.

He was released on bail on Tuesday and is due to appear in court on September 15.""

2: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080914/wl_asia_afp/australiacrimereligionsex;_ylt=Auu5BAmx6K9FB3WG0qcD1EAfYhAF

SYDNEY (AFP) - An Australian churchgoer accused of sexually assaulting a woman during prayer sessions meant to lift a black magic curse on her was refused bail Sunday, it was reported.

A magistrate described the allegations against 61-year-old Sydney man Tony Golossian as "bizarre and evil" and declined to grant him bail, Australian Associated Press reported

Just now too much pedophiling where he is, I'm glad McCain no longer goes to this church, because if each nun and priest does this to so many people, then this is very bad for the community.

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I would like to live in an age where there was total seperation of church and state, which is one of the best ideas that the "founding fathers" came up with.

Did I mention that I think anyone who tries to mix chuch and state is a potential fundamenalist and, therefore, disinclined to respect diversity? No, I don't think she and I will be running anything together, though a fair track and field race with our kdis wouold be fine. (Mine's quite fast and feisty!)

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Believing this is a "Christian" country isn't fundamentalism?

Saying that you consult GOD on political policy rather than READ newspapers isn't fundamental?

Trying to force governments on other countries isn't fundamentalism?

Shall I go on?

That's the kind of fundamentalist we had in Bush. We don't need anyone who resembles any of that insanity.